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Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« on: January 16, 2008, 08:35:41 AM »
All right, so my son is finally old enough to sit down and watch the entire Saga and enjoy it with me.  So we're at the beginning of Ep. III at the scene where Obi-Wan & Anikin face-off against Dooku.  When Dooku force pushes Obi-wan and the walk-way is dropped on him it looks like it probably broke a hip and his leg the way the walk-way was laying on him.  Now when Anikin goes to pick Obi-Wan up he slides easily out form under with no indication that a huge piece of metal had been slammed on top of him.  What's the deal?  It's sad that a seven year old had to point this out. 

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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 08:42:04 AM »
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 09:30:30 AM »
It was explained wither by GL in an interview or in a Q&A in a past issue of Insider...

Basically, what they said was: the catwalk fell and struck Obi Wan and fell over him him. He was not pinned beneath it.
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 12:33:18 PM »
That's just movie magic for ya in the BEST possible way.
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 03:07:04 PM »
He was using a "Force Field"  ::)....Bottom line is Palpatine had to be manipulating the force against Kenobi to keep him in a state of confusion while fighting Dooku....he should have handed that old man his azzz on a silver platter. Palpatine wanted Kenobi dead and I am surprised he didn't manipulate Anakin enough to leave him for dead, I am Palps could have swayed the fight in Dooku's favor.

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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 08:41:36 AM »
This question has plagued me long enough without a satisfying answer, so I'm hoping one of you can put this question to bed, once and for all (doesn't exactly fit into this thread, but I digress):

Does Count Dooku KNOW that his master, Darth Sidious, is in fact Chancellor Palpatine?

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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 09:07:50 AM »
This question has plagued me long enough without a satisfying answer, so I'm hoping one of you can put this question to bed, once and for all (doesn't exactly fit into this thread, but I digress):

Does Count Dooku KNOW that his master, Darth Sidious, is in fact Chancellor Palpatine?

Yes. In episode II Dooku says to Obi-Wan "What if I told you the republic was under the control of a Sith Lord named Darth Sidious?" (or something to that effect)

What gets me about Obi-Wan vs Count Dooku
In episode II and episode III Dooku whoops Obi-Wan like he's a novice, but Obi-Wan could keep up with Darth Maul when he was still a padawan in episode I. That does not make sense to me. Darth Maul was much more skilled with a lightsaber than Count Dooku. The fighting is much more intense in episode I than the other two prequels.

In addition, Obi-Wan defeats Anakin in episode III because Obi-Wan has the high ground. Didn't Darth Maul have the high ground (and a much better adavantage) in episode I when Obi-Wan came up from the hole and cut him in half?

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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 09:35:03 AM »
In episode II and episode III Dooku whoops Obi-Wan like he's a novice, but Obi-Wan could keep up with Darth Maul when he was still a padawan in episode I. That does not make sense to me. Darth Maul was much more skilled with a lightsaber than Count Dooku. The fighting is much more intense in episode I than the other two prequels.

Yes, but Dooku was much more of a master of the Dark Side of the Force, and I'm sure that had something to do with why he was able to handle Obi-Wan the way he did. Sure, Darth Maul could swing and backflip and kick and jump and hop and whatnot, but what is that when up against the power of force lightning?

As for why Darth Maul vs Obi-Wan and the high ground... if you recall, Obi-Wan was below the edge of the lip of that opening, at a point where I'm guessing Darth Maul couldn't reach down far enough. He caught Maul by surprise by jumping up in the air - and technically at that point was "above" Maul, or at the very least on the same level - and the surprise factor was what enabled him to cut Maul down.


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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 12:41:23 PM »
Sorry Joka, but I disagree. You see the look on Darth Maul's face change. He knows Obi-Wan is up to something. As Obi-Wan reaches floor level and goes over Darth Maul, Maul watches him, and he is never more than 3 feet from Darth Maul, still within striking range.

As for fighting Dooku, the lightning isn't what gets Obi-Wan. In AOTC it was simple defeat in a rather short and uneventful lightsaber duel. I swear that saber battle between Dooku & Obi-Wan/Anakin in AOTC was the least dramatic saber battle in the entire saga. It was like that whole movie was just rushing through a storyline to get us from Episode I to Episode III. When I first saw it I was completely underwhelmed. Some parts were cool, but it lacked feeling. For me there was never a "Whoa! Did you see that?" moment like in the 5 other movies. The closest it came was when Mace Windu cut-off Jango's head
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2008, 12:44:08 PM »
You have to remember though that Dooku is an extremely skilled duelist as that is his specialty whereas it was not nesecarily darth mauls
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 10:52:20 AM »
You have to remember though that Dooku is an extremely skilled duelist as that is his specialty whereas it was not nesecarily darth mauls

That's the only thing that makes me OK with it.
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 11:04:29 AM »
You see the look on Darth Maul's face change. He knows Obi-Wan is up to something.

I thought was him being surprised when Obi-Wan jumps out of the pit? I could be wrong considering that I loathe that film and haven't watched it since '99 or 2000.


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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 03:50:27 PM »
You see the look on Darth Maul's face change. He knows Obi-Wan is up to something.

I thought was him being surprised when Obi-Wan jumps out of the pit? I could be wrong considering that I loathe that film and haven't watched it since '99 or 2000.

Maul notices something is up just before Obi-Wan magically flies into the air. What gets me is why didn't Obi-Wan just use the force to yank Darth Maul into the pit, or throw Gen. Grievous off the landing platform on Utapau?
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2008, 09:37:19 PM »
You see the look on Darth Maul's face change. He knows Obi-Wan is up to something.

I thought was him being surprised when Obi-Wan jumps out of the pit? I could be wrong considering that I loathe that film and haven't watched it since '99 or 2000.

Maul notices something is up just before Obi-Wan magically flies into the air. What gets me is why didn't Obi-Wan just use the force to yank Darth Maul into the pit, or throw Gen. Grievous off the landing platform on Utapau?

Darth Maul has the force too so he would have resisted that but as for Greivous I dont know
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 06:32:01 AM »
Grievous had been trained in the ways of the Jedi, or so he said


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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2008, 10:02:10 AM »
He was trained in the ways of the Jedi lightsaber but he didnt have the force
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2008, 10:17:59 AM »
close enough, right?  ;)


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Re: Obi-Wan & Anakin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2008, 10:29:49 AM »
close enough, right?  ;)

Apparently for Lucasfilm.


You see the look on Darth Maul's face change. He knows Obi-Wan is up to something.

I thought was him being surprised when Obi-Wan jumps out of the pit? I could be wrong considering that I loathe that film and haven't watched it since '99 or 2000.

Maul notices something is up just before Obi-Wan magically flies into the air. What gets me is why didn't Obi-Wan just use the force to yank Darth Maul into the pit, or throw Gen. Grievous off the landing platform on Utapau?

Darth Maul has the force too so he would have resisted that but as for Greivous I dont know

So if that were the case, Obi-Wan could've resisted being knocked down the hole. It doesn't make sense.
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2008, 10:58:24 PM »
Ya if he was caught by suprise though it wouldnt work. There are always going to be "Well why wouldnt he do this?" but we also have to remember that they are in the heat of battle so its not like they have ten years to sit there and figure out what their best move would be like we do
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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 03:23:58 PM »
Sorry Joka, but I disagree. You see the look on Darth Maul's face change. He knows Obi-Wan is up to something. As Obi-Wan reaches floor level and goes over Darth Maul, Maul watches him, and he is never more than 3 feet from Darth Maul, still within striking range.

As for fighting Dooku, the lightning isn't what gets Obi-Wan. In AOTC it was simple defeat in a rather short and uneventful lightsaber duel. I swear that saber battle between Dooku & Obi-Wan/Anakin in AOTC was the least dramatic saber battle in the entire saga. It was like that whole movie was just rushing through a storyline to get us from Episode I to Episode III. When I first saw it I was completely underwhelmed. Some parts were cool, but it lacked feeling. For me there was never a "Whoa! Did you see that?" moment like in the 5 other movies. The closest it came was when Mace Windu cut-off Jango's head
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Dooku is a Sith Master and was just as good with a lightsaber as Yoda was.
Sorta like how Palpatine defeated 3 Jedi Masters in a blink of an eye. I guess Sith Masters are better skilled with a lightsaber than Jedi's. Remember. Maul was also still an apprentice as well.

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Re: Obi-Wan & Anikin vs. Dooku in E.III
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2011, 10:47:04 PM »
I have to say, the way that Anakin killed Count Dooku was in a word: SICK!