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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #60 on: July 27, 2006, 05:49:37 PM »
That's what really upset me about 3 is the whole comedy route, dont get me wrong I like comedy in Superman but they went overboard. Also the story was a little wacky IMO, I realize back then fx weren't what they are now but they could have went a different way. Four I probably have only watched it maybe tree time in my life it just didn't deliver, I felt it was lacking something and was a bit outlandish. I thought the story was a good Idea of him ridding earth of nukes and all, but seriously too far fetched.
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« Reply #61 on: July 27, 2006, 10:22:06 PM »
Really? Other than the whole clark love interest (that one reporter chick) and the cheezy acting of the sun guy I liked superman 4. I really never thought the story was too far-fetched as superman I'm sure could really get rid of all the weapons. And as far as the creation of another superman (or sun guy) does make sense...to a point. I do think superman 3 was a little too over the top though, but I love Richard Pryor in it! I just hated the whole super-computer thing.

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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2006, 07:19:45 PM »
Moviehole.net has a review of Superman II The Richard Donner Cut due out on DVD November 28, quite possibly a totaly different movie, gotta have It!
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« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2006, 01:31:38 PM »
Thanks for sharing this shawn! Yeah I'm picking up the tin

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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2006, 11:51:11 PM »
Seems that Warner Bros’ have decided to go forward with a sequel even thought the movie garnered less then their budget as reported by Moviehole, however I'm not enthused about the whole Zod rumor. I'd prefer a different baddie otherwise it's like rewriting Superman II IMO. Someone like Darkseid or Doomsdaywould be cool considering the advances in CGI these days.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2006, 04:40:43 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing Bizarro.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2007, 12:29:16 PM »
My wife got the dvd for me as a b-day gift. I finally watched this today and thought is was very good. Better than I thought it would be. I caught myself a few times getting really into it.

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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2007, 10:10:56 PM »
As good as this movie was I was surprised and upset there weren't any extras on it, I guess you have to buy the 2-disc set anymore if you want more than just a movie! >:(
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2007, 06:02:47 AM »
I think I have the two disc set. I will check it out later. I hardly ever check those things not sure why I don't maybe because I don't really have the time to go into all the documentary stuff.

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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #69 on: January 30, 2007, 07:44:58 AM »
I thought it was just me last summer, I watched it again and thought it sucked. The point of re-making a movie is to make the film better than the first. Christopher Reeves was much, much better and I didn't care for the story twists.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #70 on: January 31, 2007, 03:01:05 AM »
I disagree with Spice on one point: I don't really consider this film a re-make...it's more like "Let's pretend Superman 3 and 4 didn't happen and go from there." 

This was a **1/2 film (out of 4), which saddens me, because I very much WANTED to like this film.  Routh looked the part, and with Kevin Spacey as Luthor, how can you go wrong?

Several ways.  First, there wasn't really anything about the plot to make this a Superman film.  Take out the Kryptonite, and you can replace the characters with just about any other superhero and villain combination.  The son angle was arbitrary at best; an intriguing element, but it needed a bit more cohesiveness and thoughtfulness to be more effective [and c'mon, we need at least one allusion to that great debate from Mallrats ;)].  Most puzzling: his search for his home planet and culture, which yielded only the piece he brought back, was never really discussed beyond the first twenty minutes, and yet you could have made an ideal allusion to this soul-searching throughout the movie (and tied it in well with the discovery of his son...which while tied effectively to Jor-El's comments).  In other words, this is a wasted plot element that could have provided a bond for the whole movie.  Second, the special effects were not up-to-par (which shocked me, considering Singer was at the helm)...everything shouted out CGI to my eye.  Third, Kevin Spacey as Luthor was disappointing.  I wonder if Singer was making him dial-it-down, and a result, we got a mercurial Luthor with few choice moments (I liked him on the Kryptonite continent, and they gave him a great ending).  Fourth, the pacing was PLODDING.  That last statement is subjective, as your feel of pace is determined by how involved you are in a film, and this one wasn't grabbing me. There weren't any unnecessary scenes to trim, but the film seemed to lack a forward momentum.

That said, I immensely enjoyed the connection between this film and Supermans I and II.  The use of Brando was very effective (and welcome), and I cheered the return of the credit style.  Routh made a believeable Superman, and I liked the element of pathos he brings to the character (his Kent vs. Reeves's Kent is a push for now).  The other actors equated themselves well, although Frank Langella made a very BLAND Perry White (the original choice for the role: Hugh Laurie, who had to bow out due to signing for House....would have LOVED to have seen what he could do with this character).  All the elements--the music, the flying (the only convincing effect in the movie), the required bad-guy gnashing, an viable threat to Metropolis, a bumbling Clark Kent--were there.  Singer, however, just wasn't able to deliver the goods.  Maybe I'm being a little too nitpicky, but I think Batman Begins set a very high standard that's hard to top.

On the other hand, I say, bring on the sequel, and give these guys another chance.  Look what Sam Raimi did with another at-bat (a phenomenal Spider-Man 2 versus an okay Spider-Man).  Hopefully, with his Return fully established, we will believe that a Superman can wow us on the big screen again.

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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2007, 03:16:23 PM »
FINALLY saw this movie after having it from Netflix since January 15th!  I really liked it, and had fun with it.  I did NOT, however, like the ending.  It was too rushed, like they spent all their creative energy on the first 7/8ths of it and then just ended it.  No better explanation on Superboy, how Superman suddenly got better, nothing like that.  I know they left the door open for the sequels and such, but c'mon already.  I'd give it 3.5 stars out of 5 though.

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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2007, 12:00:08 AM »
I recently picked up Superman II: The Richard Donnner Cut, and have to say it's worth watching. There's just enough new footage and changes to be a totally different movie, it's a must see for any fan!
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2007, 12:44:30 PM »
I loved this movie i thought it was really truely good cause he looked just like the first guy in the first 3 films.i cant remeber his name so someone help me out on this one.
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« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2007, 01:11:47 PM »
I loved this movie i thought it was really truely good cause he looked just like the first guy in the first 3 films.i cant remeber his name so someone help me out on this one.

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« Reply #75 on: May 20, 2007, 01:30:32 PM »
THANKS man for helping me out on that one cause his name slipped my mind for some reason.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #76 on: May 20, 2007, 05:20:42 PM »
I loved this movie i thought it was really truely good cause he looked just like the first guy in the first 3 films.i cant remeber his name so someone help me out on this one.

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Technically it's Christoher Reeve, George Reeves played the original Superman. ;)
I agree this movie got alot of criticism especially the kid thing, but I really liked that story line becuase it could propel the saga into the future when Kal-El dies.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #77 on: May 23, 2007, 01:42:43 AM »
Well it was good and if anyone didnt like this movie they are nuts and i know its not christopher reeves  but i really liked it and wanna see it again soon i hope.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #78 on: July 14, 2007, 01:30:59 PM »
Lex Luthor back for "Man of Steel", Kevin Spacey has signed on to play Lex Luthor for the sequel.
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Re: Superman Returns
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2007, 01:20:24 AM »
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